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CC Ann
CC Ann

3year old with Myoclonic Seizures

My son was diagnosed on 12/5/2007 with Myoclonic Seizures. We have no family history on either side of our families that have Epilepsy, so this is all very new to us. So far this site has helped me a little. I would love to talk to other parents and people that are currently going through the same issues. My son Tyler started off with Depakote, 125mg capsules at 2 times a day (one in the am and one is the pm). But he kept having seizures. So the doctor put him on four a day (two in the am and two in the pm). He’s still having seizures. So we were told yesterday to put him on five times a day (two in am and three in pm). The doctor wants to see how Tyler does with the increased meds. If that doesn’t work, he’ll have to take a second medication. Any advice? My son has aggressive behavior problems and I wondered if this is associated with Epilepsy. He hits, bites and even talks back. I know every child is different but I never had problems with my oldest son that does not have Epilepsy. How do I explain this to a daycare? He was pretty much “let go” from his previous daycare when we were going through diagnosis and we’re having a hard time finding a new daycare. The cost is outrageous and how do I explain to the teacher that my son might lash out on another kid for not sharing, etc.? It’s hard to communicate with my three year old when he has speech delay. Also, how do you discipline such a child when you know they suffer… I need help…. Thank you! CC 

By CC Ann at Wed, 01/23/2008 - 2:25pm | 175 views | 16 comments

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Hi,

   My son has been disgnosed with myoclonic seizures since last year but suffered with them since he was six months old. I can totally agree with you and know what your going through. Recently our consultant has taken Jay off his epilim that has successfully kept his seizures under control since starting, and since his last dose he has had around 30 seizures a day. We also have to wait another week for an apooinment with our consultant. Jay too suffers from very agressive behaviour which results in him biting, hitting and even spitting. Jay also has a slight speech delay. like you im extremely worried about jay starting school and I feel that i am no longer allowing jay to be the child that he should be because i am constantly behind him just in case he has a seizure that literally knocks him to the floor, it is like a ticking timebomb and i really dont know what to do next.

carlyanne

carlyanne

hi cc welcome to our site..................sorry to hear about your chld having these problems....there are some great folks on here who can help u with any questions u may have.......i pray it gets better cc........take care and god bless..........

scratch

I've been in a study they did on Topamax a few years ago. I'm on it and having no problems with it, however, some other adults I have talked to have had various problems with Topamax.

I've had Epilepsy since I was 2 and I'm 49 now. The aggressive behavior has nothing to do with Epilepsy.

Did the aggression start before or after he started taking the Topamax ? Did it start before of after he started taking the Depakote ? Take those things into consideration. Talk to his Neurologist, call the doctor's office, leave a message with the person who works in the office, express your concerns, they should get right back with you about it. You shouldn't have to make an appointment. I have done that for years.

 

rhondadbe

Been down the road before.  Feel free to email me if you need to talk.  I am not a fan of any of the seizure medications but have no choice but to poison my child with them. 

 We have recently had vns surgery.  We've tried Lamictal, Depakote, Zarontin and Topamax.  Depakote seems to be the only one left he can tolerate and that isn't saying much.  VNS has improved Aaron's (age 10) attitude and behavior but he has not been the same child since this started years ago. 

Topamax made Aaron downright psychotic.  Zarontin made him an aggressive bully and depakote has turned him into a ball of emotions and you never know what Aaron your gonna get.  Age has helped him though.  I think the older they get the more control they do get over their over active emotions.

Bottom line is there has to be better options out there.  We need to find them.

 

 

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Amy here

Hi my name is Sirena. I too have a two year old almost three who has myoclonic seizures at 11 months. He has a speech delay as well. We commnicate with him by just remembering what wines and cries go with what he wants. He is currently taking Depakote 125mg two times a day, along with Topamax 25mg 2 in the AM and 2 in the PM, if that wasn't enough lets add the 12.5mg in the AM and 25mg in the PM of Lamictal.  He too acts out and bites, hits, and yells.  We will be checking to make sure that he isn't autistic as well.  I feel for you and completely understand what you and your family is going through.  Feel free to email me at latinmermaid27@yahoo.com if you want to talk to someone who understands what your going through.

latinm...

Hi CC, This is Diane again, sorry my computer is not working well!!   You need to get your son a neuro-developmental evaluation.  This is a specialist who can tell you if he has any signs of Autism or Add, besides the Epilepsy.   Also, you need to talk to your sons pediatric neurologist about whether the depakote could be the cause of his behavior problems.   I would also suggest that you contact your local board of education, and get him an evaluation.  At three, he could possibly qualify for special education in school.   Go to www.familyvoices.org and click on your state.   You son probably needs some therapies that could help him, and at age three, he could go to school and get help there.   I live in NJ, and there are multiple parent advocacy groups here, we have the highest number of children with Autism in the nation, its really sad.  I hope these suggestions will help!  Diane

dianel...

Hi, my name is Diane.  I have two children, ages 4 typically developing, and my 2 year old son, with myoclonic Epilepsy, and various developmental delays, external hydrocephalus (too much fluid on his brain, but it seems that he has outgrown it now) and some hearing loss at birth.    My son is just turning two, he was diagnosed a little over a year ago, he was 10 months old then.   We have done lots of therapies over the past year, his fine motor is actually the best area, his biggest delays now are speech and gross motor.   He is also wearing braces on his ankles now, they are called SMO's.   They are helping, he has only had them for a couple weeks and already he is walking better, and falling less.    I have started signing with him, and he Knows the Magic word is please, he signs it, but he doesnt say it yet, we are also doing speech therapy.   So far, he has been doing well with Phenobarbital, his doctor thinks that we should not keep using it indefinitely, because it can cause cognitive problems.  So, in a few months, we will try to see if he can be weaned from it, and if we need to replace it with another medication.  He has come a long way in the past year, and I just hope that he keeps making progress.  We were very lucky, when he was diagnosed last year, we were thinking he had infantile spasms, that was not the case.   I have a dear friend who has a son who has IS, and was recently also diagnosed with LGS, both rare and very difficult to control forms of Epilepsy.    So far, my son does not show any signs of Autism, and his cognitive area seems pretty good, so we are doing as many therapies as possible.    If you are interesting in using sign language, check out www.lifeprint.com   its FREE!   I hope you will be successful in helping your child.   God Bless you, Diane

dianel...

Hi, my name is Diane.  I have two children, ages 4 typically developing, and my 2 year old son, with myoclonic Epilepsy, and various developmental delays, external hydrocephalus (too much fluid on his brain, but it seems that he has outgrown it now) and some hearing loss at birth.    My son is just turning two, he was diagnosed a little over a year ago, he was 10 months old then.   We have done lots of therapies over the past year, his fine motor is actually the best area, his biggest delays now are speech and gross motor.   He is also wearing braces on his ankles now, they are called SMO's.   They are helping, he has only had them for a couple weeks and already he is walking better, and falling less.    I have started signing with him, and he Knows the Magic word is please, he signs it, but he doesnt say it yet, we are also doing speech therapy.   So far, he has been doing well with Phenobarbital, his doctor thinks that we should not keep using it indefinitely, because it can cause cognitive problems.  So, in a few months, we will try to see if he can be weaned from it, and if we need to replace it with another medication.  He has come a long way in the past year, and I just hope that he keeps making progress.  We were very lucky, when he was diagnosed last year, we were thinking he had infantile spasms, that was not the case.   I have a dear friend who has a son who has IS, and was recently also diagnosed with LGS, both rare and very difficult to control forms of Epilepsy.    So far, my son does not show any signs of Autism, and his cognitive area seems pretty good, so we are doing as many therapies as possible.    If you are interesting in using sign language, check out www.lifeprint.com   its FREE!   I hope you will be successful in helping your child.   God Bless you, Diane

dianel...

My Son is also 3 years old. We found out that he had myoclonic seizures around a year ago.  We have tried several different medicines and are currently on 3 including depakote, lamital and zonegran.  Even on the 3 mediciines he is having from 2 to 6 a day.  Some bringing him to the ground.  I am currently working but I wonder if we may have troubles with daycare in the future.  I also wonder about when he goes to school.  I don't know if its better to hold him out until we have these under control or if it is better to send him.  I would love to hear about your experience you have had with the medicine and other things.  This does not run in our family either. 

mj020605

hi im from wales in the uk and my 3 year old was diagnosed with myoclonic epilepsy about a year ago when he was 2 and a half. at first me and my family just thought they were little jerks that he'd grow out of, his eyes used to roll to the back of his head and his hands used to jerk upwards. they were getting more serious to the point where it would make him stagger into  wall or throw his bag of crisps in the air. poor thing! i took him to the doctors who referred me to the hospital and was eventually diagnosed with this epilepsy. he is now on epilim twice a day,4mls. although this has stopped his seizures, the epilepsy nurse i speak to has said that disruptive behaviour comes with it. my son has really disruptive behaviour, he sometimes just goes on 'one'. he has also been asked to leave two nurseries! if anyone has got the same problems please let me know if you have any advice. hannah

hannah...

Hi my son also has myclonic epilepsy,he was diagnosed when he was about 14 months old,he is now 11. He is mildly mentally impaired(not sure if this is from his epilepsy) We have tried every medicine out there,and he still has about 10-15 short seizures each day,and a grand mall about every 4 weeks. He is now on zonegran and depakote. We are about to have the vns surgery.(unless i change my mind.) Doctor has said that myclonic epilepsy is the hardest to treat. I pray everyday that his siezures will stop,as you prabably already know,it is so hard to see your child go thru this. I hope things work out for your son also,and let me know of changes,I am always researching myclonic epilepsy.

ljc

Hi, just thought I would add a few things. My grandson was diagnosed with seizures about a year ago. He's now 4. I'm not sure exactly what kind he has, but when he has one, he usually nods off for a few seconds. He's on lamictal in the mornings, and depakote twice a day (not sure of the dosage). He's on the kind you sprinkle on food. He still has seizures though they are less than what they were. He also has behavioral problems. Mostly he hates to share. He was biting for awhile, but that stopped. He gets frustrated easily and will have meltdowns. He hates noises and throws a fit every time he gets a haircut. He has delayed speech, and is getting speech therapy which has helped somewhat. But he's very hard to communicate with. He also has problems walking and running. He can now jump, which he wasn't able to do for awhile, but he scares me walking down stairs. We have stairs at our house, but one of us is with him at all times. I worry that when he's at school, they will get careless about watching him and he will fall. He's enrolled in early childhood development. He is behind where he needs to be. I'm hoping that with therapy and the right medications, he will get better. My feelings are that the epilepsy and the behavior go together. They once thought Aidan was autistic, but his neurologist and an autistic specialist said he was not. There is no epilepsy in the family that I'm aware of. Sure wish there were more answers out there. It's frustrating for the parents and the child.  Good luck to you.

Linkaye52

Hi I'm reading your story and begin to cry. It just hits too close to home.  My son Antonio is going through the same exact things as your grandson. We can't cut his hair without a meltdown, he is jumping and climbing on everything. He has about 15-20 seizures a day. He jsut began wearing a helmet with a face guard which has decreased tha amount of injuries he was having due to the seizures.  The bitting has stopped some due to help of his OT which suggested using an electric toothbrush to give him stimulate his mouth.  It has helped a lot.  Though I have heard it could cause him to have seizures, though with him that has not been the case.  My nephew Ayden is autustic, so I often wonder if Antonio is as well due to similar behavior.  His nuerologist wants to wait a little longer, saying that is not the focus right now. Good luck to your grandson!!

latinm...

Thank you for your response. I can’t begin to tell you how much it helps to hear back from someone. And I wish Kaitlyn, you and your family the best.

 

My son is being seen by a neurologist in my hometown. We have frequent calls/visits to discuss Tyler’s progress and I have a list of questions to ask him including SPD.

 Right now he is diagnosed with just plain myoclonic epilepsy. I didn’t realize progressive myoclonic epilepsy was another diagnosis.  We started seeing signs that something was wrong in August 2007; a month before his third birthday. Tyler’s pediatrician first said it was a “tic” because Tyler would jerk his head to the right and lock his jaw. He asked that we monitored him in the upcoming months and to call if the symptoms increased. Shortly after, Tyler started raising his arms over his head including the other symptoms. Then he started stumbling backwards and sometimes he stumbles so hard that he falls to the ground. We called his doctor immediately and he referred us to a neurologist, which we had an EEG done the following week.  Tyler continues to have seizures till this day. He is now biting his check or lip. We haven’t discussed other medications with his neurologist as of yet. He wants to see how Tyler does this week with five capsules a day. If he continues to have them, a second medication will be added to Depakote. His MRI was good and we visit the lab often to have blood work done. I would love to keep in contact with you! Cynthia.rojo26@yahoo.com 

All the best!

CC Ann

So I typed a whole long response to you but we are currently in the hospital with my daughter Kaitlyn having a VEEG and we lost internet connection, we are on day 5..... Kaitlyn is almost 3. She will be 3 in May and has been having seizures for almost a year in March. Her seizures started out as just absence seizures, or I guess they are saying focal? I'm not sure of these terms yet. Anyway, as the months have gone on her epilepsy has progressed and her seizure types have changed. Kaitlyn's current diagnosis is Myoclonic Epilepsy. She is on Depakote as well, 125 mg twice a day along with Topamax 25 mg twice a day. She is highly sensitive to medications and is getting to the point where she has tried every medication available for her type of epilepsy except for Felbatol.

Kaitlyn has major behavior and aggression problems as well. She doesn't have any speech delays but she has problems communicating her frustrations because she gets so mad so fast. We currently have her in some occupational therapy to try and help with communicating what's wrong. She also has Sensory Processing Disorder. Which greatly affects how mad she gets and how she will attack or throw fits for the smallest things. There seems to be some link between this disorder and Epilepsy, at least in children. It might be worth it to look it up and see if your son falls under that.

Have they said if you son has progressive myoclonic epilepsy or just plain myoclonic epilepsy? How old was he when his seizures started? And what did they start out as? What are his seizures like now? What other medication are they talking about trying for him? Is he seeing an epilepologist or a neurologist?? Kaitlyn has tried almost every medication available for treatment of myoclonic epilepsy, except for Felbatol. She isn't in daycare because she was getting sick and it was costing us more money to have her in daycare than it was to just have me stay home and take care of her and my son myself.

If you ever want to talk to exchange information, feel free to email me.

emilylouiseb@yahoo.com

kaitly...

 

Hi,

 I feel for your children and what you are both going through.  Like your children I went through this myself. I had a occasional episodes Myoclonic epilepsy and a two gran mal seizures when I was their age, but when I turned 11 I had active Myoclonic epilepsy.  This became uncontrollable for a long period of time. I was diagnosed with one of the worse cases my Professor had seen.   The falls happened every morning and jerking of the arms off and on through the day.  I am 47 now and of course back then I had no medication which controlled me until Depakote came in to Australia and my Professor kept me on Dilantin with it for some years.  Until I showed signs of being full controlled.  My Professor found I had to take my medication three times over the day to keep me controlled.  Maybe ask your Doctors could you do this with your child.  I know my myoclonic falls did not stop until the medication was given morning , lunch and going to bed at night.  Being a teenager I was on a very high dose, fluctuating between 1500mg to 2100mg a day.  With taking two Dilantin a day until the liver function test showed signs of the Dilantin affecting me.  I did not need it after that time anyway.

I know I took a number of years to settle down completely without it affecting me nearly every day, or everyday.  I am now considering to going back to a neurologist for an opinion at changing to Topamax, I rang my retired Professor and he commented how that has become a good drug for controlling this epilepsy.  I am only changing because of fluid retention and weight gain issues.

I had no other issues, which surprised my Professor at the time, like your children, I did well at school, but struggled to do it.  I hope the Doctors find answers for you both soon.  I was wondering also how long have they been on treatment.

Take care and hugs,

Wyn

Wyn

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